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Cal North Founders Cup Schedules and Results

                        U10
                  
U12-U14
                  
U16-U19

 

U16-U19 FOUNDERS CUP 2013 SITES

Preliminary Games                                           -         Morgan Hill Outdoor Spots Center, Morgan Hill

Qtr/Semi Finals & Championship Games       -         Bartholomew Sports Park, Elk Grove

 

Check the Venues page for information on these sites

 

Founders' Cup Apparel

      If you missed the opportunity to buy t-shirts/hoodies on-site, don't fret, you can order them on-line!

                                                          

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          Who Plays In
Cal North Founders' Cup?
 

Founders' Cup Age Groups

       U9   Founders Cup                                        
       U10 Founders Cup                         
       U12 Founders Cup
       U14 Founders Cup
       U16-U19 Founders Cup

 

 

 

 

Founders' Cup Venue(s) Designations
(which site is to be used is designated yearly):

Founders Cup Ripon
Founders Cup Mistlin Sports Park
   
NOTE:  Ripon & Mistlin Sports Park are the same venue

Founders Cup Cherry Island
Founders Cup Sacramento
   
NOTE:  Sacramento & Cherry Island are the same venue

Founders Cup Elk Grove
   
NOTE: 
Games are played at Bartholomew Sports Park

Founders Cup Morgan Hill
   
NOTE: 
Games are played at
Morgan Hill Outdoor Sports Center

Founders Cup Redding Soccer Park

 

Venues & Weather

It unfortunately happens at times that venue locations have to change.  This primarily happens
due to rain causing fields to be non-playable.  This is determined solely by the operator at the
particular site and Cal North has no control over that determination, or when they announce
it.  In the past, Cal North has been notified within the week, before the playing weekend.  This
can happen when a sudden storm over-whelms fields.  For this weather related happening,
neither the site operator or Cal North has any control over.  At the moment that Cal North is
informed, the search to find another playing location is made.  Due to the number of games
played, this has to be a large venue, which are in short supply, and may be booked with
previous game reservations from other organizations.

When signing up to play, please be aware that weather can cause the playing site to be changed.
This has to figure into your personal cost to attend, and the time needed to be able to play (i.e. if
you have to drive further than you initially anticipated, which may require you to spend the night,
rather than just doing a local drive daily).

Sometimes venues shut down fields, after they have let the fields be used during questionable
ground conditions.  Fields end up damaged and the site operator then shuts the fields down, to
allow time for healing.  This process can easily take months to happen.  Even on a normal basis,
it is good to allow a field to have a 'rest' period, for grass to grow and fill-in spots.  This may
cause a site to be unavailable for a period of time, due to fields being rested.  With this being
done, if you notice a site near you that 'seems' available to play, from a casual glance, it may not
be available, as the venue operator may be resting the fields.  This can easily occur also during wet
weather.  Just 'looking' at a field cannot necessarily tell you the condition of a field that has retained
a large amount of moisture.  This would be seen by walking on the field, and noticing how much
moisture is in the ground.  The following picture shows a heavy amount of moisture in the ground
and is an example of field conditions when play should not happen, due to the ground being too
wet:

                        
                             Note the large amount of water being kicked up by running players

    

     Frost On Ground

          Some sites are paying closer attention to their fields, and rightfully so.  Good fields will not
          exist where they are used in weather conditions that cause fields to be damaged.  Frost on
          fields is one of the items that is getting more attention.  If there is frost on the grass, stepping
          on the upper part of the grass, which is covered with frost, will kill the top layer of grass.  A
          university statement, which studied effects of walking on frost covered grass made a simple
          statement "
 Injury to frost covered Grass will not be seen right away but will be noticeable 12
          to 48 hours after the damage is done.  Often the injured grass will get a purple or black hue.
          The Grass will then turn brown as it dies.  Dead Grass will leave areas for Weeds to germinate.
          Damaged Grass that does not die will be more susceptible to disease
."  It comes down to a
          simple policy, people should not be walking/playing on frost covered grass, as it will damage
          the playing field.  While some may thing it is 'fun' to see their feet print on the frost covered
          grass, each foot print is damaging the area where they walked.  A prudent site operator will
          want people to stay entirely off their grass until the frost is gone.  This is a practical matter,
          and is happening more often.  In turn, this causes delays in scheduled playing times.  This
          is another weather related happening, which cannot be predicted.

 

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What Is Founders' Cup?

Founders' Cup Experience

The Cal North Founders’ Cup tournament is a tournament solely for recreational players.  This tournament is a
yearly tournament, bringing together teams from all over northern California to play.  There are three divisions
of the tournament.  One division hosts age groups U9-10 & U12-U14 players.  This division starts play in
mid-December, with the tournament concluding near the middle of December, for the U9-10 age groups.  The
U12-U14 age group plays 'Founders' Cup Sectional Qualifiers' in December.  Those teams that advance out
of the sectional qualifiers will play in the state level Founders Cup tournament in January.  The sectional qualifiers
will be new for 2013 Founders' Cup.


(Please see the section later on this page, regarding the change for U12-U14 play, in 2013)

The second division of the tournament hosts U16-U19
players
.  This group starts play in late February, and
concludes around the beginning of March.  U12-14
Applications for Founders’ Cup are typically due in to
the Cal North office at the very beginning of November.
Applications for U16-U19 teams are due into the Cal
North office by the very beginning of January.  These
dates are listed on the Cal North site.

The U9-U10 players play in what is named the
'Junior Cup Festival', which also can be called the
Cal North Junior Cup.  This festival is composed of
the younger age group of several different playing
divisions, from recreational to competitive.  The games
are played at the same site, with each division competing
against teams in its' own playing division (i.e. recreational
vs. recreational, competitive vs. competitive).
Recreational teams may elect to enter the Association
Cup segment of the festival, instead of the recreational
level of play.  This would be for a recreational team that may have been at the top of play in their recreational
season of play.  A caveat here though.  They would potentially be playing against other teams that had been
playing competitive play all season, at a playing level different then that of recreational play.  For a recreational
team that may be thinking of going competitive in their next playing season, this might be something for them to
try, to preview what they would be up against for the future.  There may be a higher tournament fee to play in
the competitive part of the Junior Cup Festival (Association Cup & State Cup). 

In October, 2012, Cal North announced that the Junior Cup Festival would become an 'Open Cup' festival.  For
State Cup & Association Cup, the age group would run U9-U11, as compared to Founders' Cup being U9-U10.  In
addition, being now classified as an 'Open Cup', other
organizations registered with US Soccer  are now eligible to
enter the festival.  The non-Cal North teams in the 'open'
tournament play against each other for the tournament.  The
format of the championship games was changed for the U10
age group.  The winning championship team from the U10 age
group now plays the championship team from the 'open' tournament,
for the overall champion.  The final championship game scheduling
will be attempted for December, but may happen in January.

Over the past years, the Founders’ Cup games have been held
at the Morgan Hill Sports Complex, in Morgan Hill, Mistlin Sports
Complex in Ripon, Cherry Island in Rio Linda (also called
'Sacramento' ), and at Bartholomew Sports Park in Elk Grove.  The
fields at Bartholomew Sports Park are all turf fields.  There are two
turf fields at Morgan Hill, which are in a stadium and ten (10) grass
fields.  New sites will be used, as available.

The format for Founders' Cup is purely recreational and is designed to be a place for recreational teams to experience
tournament play.  There are no ‘qualifications’ for a team to play at Founders’ Cup.  It is as simple as a team deciding
that they want to go, and they apply.  Regional qualifiers to attend Founders’ Cup exist in the older age groupU12-U14
teams will play in Founders' Cup Sectional Qualifiers to become eligible to attend the final rounds. 

For teams desiring to enter Founders’ Cup, it is a simple process.  You pay
the entry fee for that year, and file your team paperwork with Cal North.  A
team is eligible for playing in Founders’ Cup for having just participated in the
Fall playing season.  Teams go to the tournament as a team, with all members
of the team being eligible to go to Founders’ Cup.  All teams that apply are
accepted, no team is turned away.  Please note, you must communicate your
attentions to attend Founders’ Cup with your league registrar.  You paperwork
will be processed by your registrar and the District registrar.

There are a number of things that a coach will find out if they attend Founders'
Cup: (1) They and their team will have fun.  It is an experience for the
recreational players to travel with their teammates; (2) The team will be excited.
It will most likely be the first time that they have played teams from other areas
that they know nothing about.  New friendships could be made; (3) The coach
will see their team play at a different level than they did during the recreational
season play; (4) The parents feel the excitement of the Cup competitions also;
(5) For some teams, it may be a test for them to consider if they wish to
move to competitive play.               

 

 

Cal North Founders' Cup 2012-2013

 

                                                                                                    

Cal North Founders' Cup Calendar

Oct. 20,2012 District VIII teams; District Registrar must have roster.  Preliminary Roster, to be submitted on Nov. 1 to Cal North
November 1 Applications for U9-U14 due to Cal North office, before 5:00 P.M.
November 15 Founders' Cup Team Draw:  Cal North Office, Pleasanton (Cal North held draw on 11/15, with office staff only)
November 30 District Registrar must have any roster changes IN HAND by this date.  Final Roster
December 8-9 Founders' Cup U9-U10 Boys and Girls Preliminary
Games to be played at Cherry Island, Rio Linda
December 15 Founders' Cup U9-U10 Boys and Girls Qtr & Semi Final
Games to be played at Cherry Island, Rio Linda
December 16 Founders' Cup U9-U10 Boys and Girls Championship Games to be played at Cherry Island, Rio Linda
December 8-9 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Preliminary Games at Mistlin Sports Park, Ripon--CANCELED
December 15 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Qtr & Semi Final Games at Mistlin Sports Park, Ripon--CANCELED
December 16 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Championship Games at Mistlin Sports Park, Ripon--CANCELED

2013

January 2 Applications for U16-U19 due to Cal North office, before 5:00 P.M.
January 12 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Preliminary
games to be played at Mistlin Sports Park, Morgan Hill
January 13 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Preliminary
games to be played at Mistlin Sports Park, Morgan Hill
January 19 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Qtr Final and Semi Final games to be played at Mistlin Sports Park, Ripon
January 20 Founders' Cup U12-U14 Boys and Girls Championship games to be played at Mistlin Sports Park, Ripon
TBD Founders' Cup Team Draw  U16-U19, at Cal North Office
Feb. 23-24 Founders' Cup U16-U19 Boys and Girls Preliminary games:  Will be played at the Morgan Hill Outdoor Sports Center, in Morgan Hill.
March 2 Founders' Cup U16-U19 Boys and Girls Semi-finals & Championship games:   Bartholomew Sports Park, Elk Grove

                                       Printable Founders' Cup Calendar


For all teams,
check with your league registrar for deadline dates for getting your documents into  them for processing.  They must have time for documents to be processed, and delivered.  These dates will be in advance of the Cal North dates, so don't think that you have until the very last second to get your documents in.

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Cal North Junior Cup Festival - Structure

The teams will play as they have in the past, going thru the championship rounds.  In the 'open cup' division, the teams will do the same.  When the championship teams have been determined for the recreational division of the Junior Cup Festival, and the 'open division' championship team has been determined, they will play each other for the overall champion of the Junior Cup Festival.  A team essentially would end up playing two championship games, one for their recreational division, and the final championship game against the winner of the 'open' division.  Cal North has stated that this final championship game would be scheduled in January, if it cannot be held in December.

Who are these potential 'open cup' teams that a recreational team would play against?  These may includes teams from the following:  US Club, NorCal, AYSO, SAY Soccer, and USSSA

 

 

                                                                                                

Cal North Founders' Cup U12-U14 - Changes In 2013

There will be changes in the manner that Founders' Cup will be played in the U12-U14 age groups, beginning in 2013.  Cal North has implemented 'Founders' Cup Sectional Qualifiers'

Oh, what does the 'Founders' Cup Sectional Qualifier' mean?  You would play a series of games with teams from your next door district.  As an example, District VIII would play against District VII teams.  The teams that win their qualifying rounds would advance to the upper round, which would be the actual conclude with champions, those that did not win would not advance.  The fees for the qualifying round would be based on an average of $100 per game.  You would pay another fee, if you advanced, to play the remaining State Level games toward the championship.  You could end up playing some of your own local teams, knocking each other off, if your local area had a lot of teams going.  This would depend on the number of teams playing from your next door district.  These games would happen in the local area of the districts involved.

Please go to the Sectional Games page to review the information on sectional play, as it exists currently.

UPDATE:   April 15, 2013

The Founders' Cup Committee did not get an opportunity to establish/finalize the rules/procedures for the operation of sectional games at the recent CYSA Expo, at Lake Tahoe.  The committee will have to meet again, at a future date, to work on these items.  Right now, only the shell exists, not the internals, for the sectionals.

 

The District VIII Founders Cup representative is currently Jack Smith and if you have questions,       contact me at d8americancup@comcast.net

 

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Where Are Founders' Cup Games Played?
2012-2013

 

Cal North Founders' Cup Locations

The tentative locations selected, as of 9/15/2012, are:

          Cal North Junior Cup Festival for Founders’, Association and State Cup at Cherry Island on December 8-9 and 15-16

          Cal North Founders’ Cup U12-U14 at Ripon Soccer Complex on January 12-13 and 19-20, 2013

          Cal North Founders’ Cup U16-19 at Morgan Hill Outdoor Sports Center, in Morgan Hill

          Cal North Founders’ Cup U16-U19 single elimination rounds at Bartholomew Sports Park, Elk Grove on March 2

NOTE:  The U16-U19 semi-finals and the championship games will be held on one day, on March 2.  This will eliminate
              the need for most teams to have to spend money to stay the night.  The only exception might be teams having
              the first game of the day, who have to drive a long distance.

 

Cal North Founders' Cup Fee

The following fee has been set for 2012-2013 Founders' Cup games:

          $450                   (Junior Cup Festival, and U12-U14)

If you are a recreational team that wants advanced play challenges, you may sign up to play in Association Cup, of the Junior Cup Festival.  You will then compete against entry level competitive teams.  To play in the Association Cup part of the Junior Cup Festival the fee is $550.

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 Items On This Page

(Just click on item to go directly to it)

Flight Tracker For Coaches
Founders Cup Coaches Worksheet
Special Word to U9 Coaches
Application Deadline
Founders Cup Guide
Player Roster Count
Dogs At Fields
Wearing of Non-Uniform Clothing During Play
Guest Players
On-Line Application
Spectator Behavior
Lodging
Car Pools
Team Area During Game
Turf Field Warning
Player Transfers
Chaperone Form
Venue Parking Fees
A Word About Team Credentials
Who Has To Switch Jerseys In A Color Conflict?
Player Change Of Clothing

 

'Flight Tracker' For Coaches

           This worksheet allows you to keep track of teams in your flight, collecting point information.  Get this form here

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Founders Cup - Coaches Worksheet

           This worksheet can help facilitate your working through items, as you prepare for Founders' Cup.  It is a check-list guide, to help you insure that you have covered vital items.  Get this form here

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Special note to U9 coaches

          
U9 teams are allowed to play in the tournament, but you are playing in the U10 group, against U10 & U9 teams.  There is no effort made to place U9 teams in a bracket with other U9 teams.  Teams are bracketed solely by random, which may produce any random group of age groups in a bracket.  When you apply to the tournament, you also use the U10 application form to apply, as there is no U9 application form.

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Application Deadline:

Take note that the listed age group applications are U9-14 and U16-19, with both groups having different timelines that they have to apply by, as follows:

U9-14    -  Must apply by November 1, 2012, by 5:00 pm;  Applications MUST be IN the office

U16-19 -   Must apply by January 2, 2013, by 5:00 pm;  Applications MUST be IN the office

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Founders' Cup Coaches Guide 2012-2013:

A document that gives information on Founders' Cup, and Founders' Cup Tips.


 

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Player Roster Count:

For U14-U19 teams, you may now have 22 players on your roster.   Ask your league registrar for help on these items.  Only 18 players can be designated as being eligible to play in a game.  For U9-U12 teams, you may have an 18 player roster.  For rosters with over 18 players, players not designated as playing in the game cannot be in uniform.  They may be with the team, but just not in uniform.

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Pets At Fields:

                      For all facilities, NO PETS ARE ALLOWED  Coaches have the responsibility for notifying their team.  If a party brings a pet, they will be asked to remove the pet from the fields.  Please do not bring a pet to the fields.  Coaches need to make sure that their team is aware of this.                      

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Wearing of non-uniform clothing during Cup play 

The Head Cal North referee official comments on the wearing of long sleeve clothing, hats & gloves.  Insure that you read section 'XI Uniforms', in the Cal North Cup Competition Directives, Rules & Regulations, regarding rules on non-uniform clothing, as there are specific requirements.                                        

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Guest Players:

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No guest players.

On-Line Application Process:

     The Cal North automated process for doing applications, on-line.  Just click the 'Register online'
                       logo!

 
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If you apply and pay online, you still need all the paper documentation into the office by the deadline.

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NINE (9) players from the current recreational season team must listed.  You may ADD up any number of players to your team, who had not played/registered for the current recreational season.   You may now transfer players from other leagues to your roster.  There is a difference in the number of transfers that you may have, when using players from your league, versus players from outside of your league.  Ask your league registrar about this.

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Your first step in preparing to go to Founders' Cup is to speak with your league registrar to get their deadlines for having your roster processed for Founders' Cup.   They can also answer your questions as to adding players to your team, or getting unregistered players on to your roster.

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For team officials, Cal North allows a maximum of FOUR team officials, with passes, to be on the sideline with your team.  It is NOT sufficient just to have the person listed on the golden rod.  They MUST have a pass.  Your spouse and children must be on the spectator side of the field.


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Spectator Behavior

This is an issue for coaches and Cal North.  Cal North holds a coach responsible for the behavior of their spectators.  In matches, a coach and their spectators may be separated.  This means that a coach will have to watch the game, and the conduct of their spectators, from across the field.  This means that the coach and assistant coach will have to work with each other on watching aspects of both the game, and spectators.  It would be beneficial to task the 'team parent' with helping to monitor the parents, as they must be on the sideline with the parents (they are not a team 'coach', with credentials, so they would be with the spectators).  However, remember the coach has the final responsibility, if something happens.  If it is apparent that the team parent cannot get a parent to settle down, they need to notify the coach immediately.  If the team parent seeks a Cal North field officer nearby, they can also explain the situation to them, to seek assistance.


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Lodging

Think long, pay long here folks.  You need to pay attention as to when the venue is announced.  Needless to say, the cheaper rooms go first!  Everything is first come, first served.  You also need to have a parents meeting and talk about how the chaperoning will work, especially  for any player that may attend the games without parents (i.e. traveling with another family and staying in their room, or adjoining rooms).  Coaches may want to review the following item, from the league insurance carrier (click here).

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Car Pools

Cal North has a form that seeks to protect you from that well worn adage (Murphy's Law), if you wish to use it.  This is the Car Pool Driver Form, which can also be found in the back of your Team Manual.


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Team area during a game

Coaches are responsible to ensure that only credentialed team personnel are in the team area during a game.  No parents/sponsors are allowed.  Cal North personnel will be checking team areas for authorized personnel, as per team check-in, with credentials having been previously presented.  You may have a total of four (4) licensed team personnel in the team area.  Please take note, the spouses/significant others,  and children of licensed personnel are spectators and must be in the spectator area.

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Turf Field Warning

Please take note.  An increasing number of sites have turf fields.  To this date, all of the past sites have restrictions regarding usage of turf fields.  Most sites have the same set of rules, as others, for preservation of the turf.  Please ensure that your team is prepared for this, by checking your schedule and letting your team know about it in advance.  This means that you must pay careful and immediate attention to your playing schedule when you receive it.  If players need to buy new shoes, they need to know about it in advance.  For the team area, the coach will be held responsible for ensuring that all players abide by the rules of the field.  The coach should ensure that their team is informed of the turf field rules, before they go to the fields (ideally a coach should issue a statement to the team, prior to leaving home, informing them of any specific rules that they will face).

bulletNo metal cleats are allowed on the field.  There is no exception to this, so if a player brought ONLY metal cleats, they would not be allowed to play.  Metal cleats destroy artificial turf.
bulletOnly water, NO GATORADE may be brought onto the field (Gatorade stains the artificial turf AND makes it sticky)
bulletThere are often restrictions on food.  Some might say no food at all, while others might say no form of shelled nuts (i.e. sunflower seeds, peanuts, etc.) are allowed.  To this point, it has been consistent on the 'no shelled nuts' restrictions.  They don't want them near their fields, and you can't hide the fact that you are eating them, from the residue that you spew.  It is all for protecting the field environment and the fact that most places do not have clean-up crews, to clean-up after every game.  They want the area to stay clean, all day.  Ensure that you are aware of any food restrictions for the turf field that you may play on.  If fruit is allowed, consider how you present the fruit, to save yourself some trouble, even if it is on a grass field.  For oranges, you might consider peeling them before you leave home.  Players often sometimes peel them, and let the peelings just fall on the ground.  Needless to say, this all has to be picked up before the team leaves their team area.  This can be a pain for a coach.  The coach is responsible for ensuring that their team area is clean, when they leave the field.  There is no janitorial cleaning team to do this.
bulletDo not bother to take a pop-up, as you will not be able to use it.  In general, where there are turf fields, there is no dirt area to anchor a pop-up down.  The same applies to umbrellas.  For turf fields that have spectator stands, some are covered, and some possibly are not.

                                          

Note:  The above viewing stand is the typical viewing stand at Bartholomew Sports Park

 

 

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Player Transfers

Your team may have a maximum of five (5) transfers from another league to your team.  You may select from more than one league, but you have a maximum of five outside your league players that you can transfer on.  You have unlimited transfers from teams within your league.  Remember that this can only be recreational players.


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Chaperone Form

For those parents who cannot attend the games and are having other parents watch over their child, this form can be used to outline the responsibilities of the chaperone, and ensure that they understand their responsibilities.
 

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Venue Parking Fees

Be prepared to pay an average of $5-$6 to park at several venues.  Check on entering about 'In/Out' policy for parking.  This is where it might be smart to carpool players from the hotel, loading up the cars and saving on parking fees. 

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A Word About Team Credentials

As a recreational team, playing solely within your league, your team credentials do not meet state standards for tournament play.  You may play in a league where pictures on player passes were not needed, or not strictly enforced.  This is not acceptable for state level playing passes, as all passes must have a proper picture.  The other item is that to play in Founders Cup, you are then considered a 'traveling team' and must meet requirements for such.  This means that all passes, players and coaches, must be laminated.  Any pass that does not have a picture, or is not laminated will not be accepted at team check-in--no exceptions.  This is why you need to insure that you would with your league registrar and District Registrar on getting your team credentials to them, for the needed work to be done on them.  Your '1401' form, the medical release form, must be the original forms that were signed, no copies will be accepted.  It must be in 'original' ink signature. 
 

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Who has to switch jerseys in a color conflict?

In most playing leagues it is the home team that has to change their jersey in a color conflict with a visiting team.  The same exists in Founders' Cup.  If you know a coach that might let you borrow some practice vests/pennies, it might be wise to do so, as a just-in-case.  A game could not be played with both teams having the same color jersey, and the responsibility falls on the home team for this.

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Player Change Of Clothing

For the fall playing season, the weather is sometimes an issue.  Fields may be wet/slightly muddy.  There is typically a big gap between the first game played and the next game.  If a player has wet/muddy socks/clothing, it is most likely prudent for them to be able to change.  The team will need to consider as to how/where this will occur.  The question also involves as to what they will change into.  A recreational team typically does not have a 2nd uniform to change into.  The next alternative may be sweats, or street clothing.  This does not resolve a wet sock issue though, for the next game.  A wise player/team will have a 2nd pair of socks for their players, as a just-in-case measure.  The wet/muddy uniform is another matter, which could provide a challenge.  A parent could take all the uniforms to a laundromat and wash & dry them.  This means a volunteer, to be away from the team.  The location of the nearest laundromat would have needed to be pin-pointed, prior to playing, so that the party could get there and back quickly (hoping that all the machines were not in usage).  An alternative could be renting one room at a place that has a washer/dryer room on site.  Players could change clothes in the room and the clothes could be washed on site.

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Founders' Cup Information (on  Cal North Web):

          Cal North Founders Cup Apply on-line

          Cal North Founders Cup Rules

          Cal North  Founders Cup Suspension Report

          Cal North Founders Cup Schedules and Results

          Cal North Founders Cup Venue Information

          Cal North Founders Cup Hotline for help

          Cal North Applications Received

          Cal North Junior Cup Festival

 

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